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		<title>By: Daughter of the Ring of Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are you in it?</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of the Ring of Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are you in it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] prefer to use. It&#8217;s a mediocre poem, though a bit too coherent to be the work of a scraper. (Amy King hopes they’ve been reading the work of three thousand plus poets for the past few years, ....) The use of &#8220;twilight&#8221; in both the title and body certainly reflects one of my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] prefer to use. It&#8217;s a mediocre poem, though a bit too coherent to be the work of a scraper. (Amy King hopes they’ve been reading the work of three thousand plus poets for the past few years, &#8230;.) The use of &#8220;twilight&#8221; in both the title and body certainly reflects one of my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vitro Nasu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shark Fin Soup and Tissue 2</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitro Nasu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shark Fin Soup and Tissue 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Author, Resurrected - Amy King&#8217;s Alias  Filed under: Artifice, Blogging, Entertainment, Poetics, Poetry, Sexy — amyking @ 3:23 pm Tags: Author, Barthes, Death of the Author, Internet, Ownership, Poetry Anthology, poets, Situationist, Spectacle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Author, Resurrected &#8211; Amy King&#8217;s Alias  Filed under: Artifice, Blogging, Entertainment, Poetics, Poetry, Sexy — amyking @ 3:23 pm Tags: Author, Barthes, Death of the Author, Internet, Ownership, Poetry Anthology, poets, Situationist, Spectacle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: susana</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>susana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have just committed the unforgiveable and left a comment on Silliman&#039;s blog, yikes! I am a bit surprised that no one else has appeared to have taken the entire minute it took me to google, Erica T Carter...the source is text is from Emily Dickinson&#039;s complete works and Joseph Conrad&#039;s, &#039;Heart of Darkness&#039; so any similarities which surely exist are either formal ones, grammatic (of which there are many models to use, Plath, O&#039;Hara, DuPlessis, etc) All known to the cannon, all familiar and undoubtedly influential. Though, I do find that this discussion in general is a great one and it is good to see so many of the blur of names speaking up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have just committed the unforgiveable and left a comment on Silliman&#8217;s blog, yikes! I am a bit surprised that no one else has appeared to have taken the entire minute it took me to google, Erica T Carter&#8230;the source is text is from Emily Dickinson&#8217;s complete works and Joseph Conrad&#8217;s, &#8216;Heart of Darkness&#8217; so any similarities which surely exist are either formal ones, grammatic (of which there are many models to use, Plath, O&#8217;Hara, DuPlessis, etc) All known to the cannon, all familiar and undoubtedly influential. Though, I do find that this discussion in general is a great one and it is good to see so many of the blur of names speaking up!</p>
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		<title>By: Marsupialus</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Marsupialus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God damn.  Now I know my career is doomed.  I&#039;m not even included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God damn.  Now I know my career is doomed.  I&#8217;m not even included.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin Kelley</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears the anthology has been removed from ForGodot.com now. Too bad. I guess too many threats of lawsuits killed the fun. Or maybe it was designed to be a flash in the pan to rile up the poets and now it&#039;s gone. Ah, well...  Glad I captured my &quot;poem&quot; from the anthology before it disappeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the anthology has been removed from ForGodot.com now. Too bad. I guess too many threats of lawsuits killed the fun. Or maybe it was designed to be a flash in the pan to rile up the poets and now it&#8217;s gone. Ah, well&#8230;  Glad I captured my &#8220;poem&#8221; from the anthology before it disappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore Williams</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>John Moore Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, ha! I love the way you suggest this anthology our Godot! I&#039;m incredibly amused by all the incensed reactions this is evoking. As a relatively new poet, without, yet, a full-length to my name, I&#039;m personally gratified that I register a blip on a radar attuned to people like yourself and ... well, far too many others for me to bother doing anything but pasting here. I just can&#039;t help thinking, cliche though it be, that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and that those infuriated by this are simply missing what is, as you say, a delightful joke. And a wonderful method of pointing out so many realities; the undeath of the author being not the least of these. Another element I really enjoy is the way that it causes such a stir amongst an era of poets so aware of technical procedures like flarf, the cut-up, and etc. Why does it upset practitioners of such forms when the procedure is inflicted on &quot;their&quot; words?

I too detect an at least partial human presence in these works. Noah Eli Gordon suggested the poem generator Erika T. Carter as the procedural culprit (though of course there was a human element in who fed her the input), and looking at some of her products, I can see where he&#039;s coming from. There&#039;s certainly a degree of similitude between &quot;her&quot; products and those in the anthology. But I&#039;m pretty sure that I also recognize the source text for &quot;my&quot; work in the &quot;anthology&quot;:

&quot;my&quot; last stanza in the piece in the anthology:


A voice
A long girl
Like a girl
Of wilderness

the last stanza of a piece I &quot;wrote&quot;:

a filthy animal in my hands
a laugh freeing your long nudity
radiating your long, bright form.

Seems a certain similitude there, no? Or perhaps I&#039;m committing the crime of Heisenberg&#039;s observer?

Another reason I can&#039;t help but this all quite amusing is that what I perceive to be the source text is itself a cutup, a piece &quot;borrowed&quot; from Georges Bataille. So then, as with so much flarfist and source-text based work, the question seems to be, what of the poem I write is &quot;mine&quot;? And perhaps a Buddhist tenet that nothing which can be preceded with &quot;my&quot; can be considered part of one&#039;s Self is important to remember here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, ha! I love the way you suggest this anthology our Godot! I&#8217;m incredibly amused by all the incensed reactions this is evoking. As a relatively new poet, without, yet, a full-length to my name, I&#8217;m personally gratified that I register a blip on a radar attuned to people like yourself and &#8230; well, far too many others for me to bother doing anything but pasting here. I just can&#8217;t help thinking, cliche though it be, that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and that those infuriated by this are simply missing what is, as you say, a delightful joke. And a wonderful method of pointing out so many realities; the undeath of the author being not the least of these. Another element I really enjoy is the way that it causes such a stir amongst an era of poets so aware of technical procedures like flarf, the cut-up, and etc. Why does it upset practitioners of such forms when the procedure is inflicted on &#8220;their&#8221; words?</p>
<p>I too detect an at least partial human presence in these works. Noah Eli Gordon suggested the poem generator Erika T. Carter as the procedural culprit (though of course there was a human element in who fed her the input), and looking at some of her products, I can see where he&#8217;s coming from. There&#8217;s certainly a degree of similitude between &#8220;her&#8221; products and those in the anthology. But I&#8217;m pretty sure that I also recognize the source text for &#8220;my&#8221; work in the &#8220;anthology&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;my&#8221; last stanza in the piece in the anthology:</p>
<p>A voice<br />
A long girl<br />
Like a girl<br />
Of wilderness</p>
<p>the last stanza of a piece I &#8220;wrote&#8221;:</p>
<p>a filthy animal in my hands<br />
a laugh freeing your long nudity<br />
radiating your long, bright form.</p>
<p>Seems a certain similitude there, no? Or perhaps I&#8217;m committing the crime of Heisenberg&#8217;s observer?</p>
<p>Another reason I can&#8217;t help but this all quite amusing is that what I perceive to be the source text is itself a cutup, a piece &#8220;borrowed&#8221; from Georges Bataille. So then, as with so much flarfist and source-text based work, the question seems to be, what of the poem I write is &#8220;mine&#8221;? And perhaps a Buddhist tenet that nothing which can be preceded with &#8220;my&#8221; can be considered part of one&#8217;s Self is important to remember here.</p>
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		<title>By: Issue 1</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Issue 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; read a similar note of clarification at Harriet &#8211; for a change of pace, read a rather sane and calm take from Amy King &#8211; finally, if you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s gone far enough, read this draft [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; read a similar note of clarification at Harriet &#8211; for a change of pace, read a rather sane and calm take from Amy King &#8211; finally, if you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s gone far enough, read this draft [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mueske</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mueske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the anthology doesn&#039;t speak for itself.  It doesn&#039;t speak for anything because it is either a.) a behavioral experiment or b.) an elaborate practical joke.

In either case, it&#039;s not terribly interesting. I would probably feel differently if the scope of the project were explained up front.  But people were under the impression that it was &quot;a legitimate text&quot;.  It&#039;s sort of the equivalent of photoshopping someone else&#039;s body to your face. I mean, I get it.  But clever it&#039;s not.  And it&#039;s not new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the anthology doesn&#8217;t speak for itself.  It doesn&#8217;t speak for anything because it is either a.) a behavioral experiment or b.) an elaborate practical joke.</p>
<p>In either case, it&#8217;s not terribly interesting. I would probably feel differently if the scope of the project were explained up front.  But people were under the impression that it was &#8220;a legitimate text&#8221;.  It&#8217;s sort of the equivalent of photoshopping someone else&#8217;s body to your face. I mean, I get it.  But clever it&#8217;s not.  And it&#8217;s not new.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bloomberg-Rissman</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bloomberg-Rissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too thought instantly of Barthes ... 

I do think that the anthology actually does have a title: if you look at p.2 of the pdf, it appears to be *Principal Hand*. 

Also: The instant I saw my poem I tho I didn&#039;t remember writing it I was all like ah! I am as proud of this piece as &quot;I&quot; is of any of the poems &quot;IS supposedly wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too thought instantly of Barthes &#8230; </p>
<p>I do think that the anthology actually does have a title: if you look at p.2 of the pdf, it appears to be *Principal Hand*. </p>
<p>Also: The instant I saw my poem I tho I didn&#8217;t remember writing it I was all like ah! I am as proud of this piece as &#8220;I&#8221; is of any of the poems &#8220;IS supposedly wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernesto Priego</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernesto Priego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprisingly, we invoked the same spectral proper name...</description>
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		<title>By: susana</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>susana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>critics ... lalala, moving type too fast!

oh check this out too:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4932117.ISSUE_ONE_fall_2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>critics &#8230; lalala, moving type too fast!</p>
<p>oh check this out too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4932117.ISSUE_ONE_fall_2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4932117.ISSUE_ONE_fall_2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: susana</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>susana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is hilarious and clever. There is nothing lazy about this project, which took work, even if it be computer generated. Not only do the editors take a swipe at publishing, or publishing e-books, authorship, ego, oh did i say EGO? The provocation is hilarious. I would like to see other sorts of projects (outside of their own poetry work) say in way of editing, publishing and collective ensembles from all of the critiques. It is easy for one to stand their pointing their finger at these kids (if they are even &#039;they&#039; or kids for that matter) vs taking action and making things happen. Since when did poetry become so spiteful, boring, and capitalistic (I am well-connected yada yada yada...yawn) Perhaps always, as poetry and the writing of which is kind of elitist by nature. Now that all the drones are able to get educations and out there, now that publishing is taking on new dimensions, etc people are scared... hehehe I wonder what Kenny Goldsmith thinks of all this tomfoolery? I bet he loves it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is hilarious and clever. There is nothing lazy about this project, which took work, even if it be computer generated. Not only do the editors take a swipe at publishing, or publishing e-books, authorship, ego, oh did i say EGO? The provocation is hilarious. I would like to see other sorts of projects (outside of their own poetry work) say in way of editing, publishing and collective ensembles from all of the critiques. It is easy for one to stand their pointing their finger at these kids (if they are even &#8216;they&#8217; or kids for that matter) vs taking action and making things happen. Since when did poetry become so spiteful, boring, and capitalistic (I am well-connected yada yada yada&#8230;yawn) Perhaps always, as poetry and the writing of which is kind of elitist by nature. Now that all the drones are able to get educations and out there, now that publishing is taking on new dimensions, etc people are scared&#8230; hehehe I wonder what Kenny Goldsmith thinks of all this tomfoolery? I bet he loves it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Jarnot</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Jarnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m suing the mo-fos!</description>
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		<title>By: Margaux Jones</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaux Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Margaux, Perhaps “Situationist” is a bit of a stretch, but you give the reception
&gt; too much credit by putting all of the weight on Mathias’ response. Many folks are
&gt; pissed off, arguing over the use of their names, the poems attributed to them, etc.
&gt; Check out the comments on the For Godot blog and on the Harriet blog. It’s ridiculous.
&gt; No one is making money, people looking for poetry aren’t exactly dying to read the
&gt; poems within nor are they being turned off of my work because they don’t like “my”
&gt; poem in the anthology, etc.&quot;

Yeah, you&#039;re right. My response was a little premature, I just finished reading Ron Silliman&#039;s ridiculous grumpy old man response. However, to me the event was still not really a provocation. I&#039;m actually shocked at the amount of crybaby prissy bitterness that such a remarkably TAME act is able to produce, it&#039;s unbelievable! There really isn&#039;t anything interesting in the way they constructed the anthology itself, the only merit seems to be in laughing at the uptight responses of those &quot;included&quot; in it... I just assumed up front that the whole event would be more generally recognized as tame, unprovocative, lighthearted as is mirrored in most of the positive and approbative responses. It seems to either piss off an ultra-conservative egoist blowhard element or just be generally approved, but in this sense I think it should be judged insofar as the former is an incredibly easy category to troll, there really isn&#039;t any sport or sharp experiment or talent in the act, the results are entirely predictable and the provocation thermometer falls flat in this sense. I guess it&#039;s kind of tragicomic watching idiots throw tantrums over the completely tame inclusion of their names in some meaningless .pdf file on the internet, inexorably hooked into whatever fucked up cathexes are making them defend whatever kind of idealized (profitable) reputation they&#039;ve staked out for themselves... but after this it just gets kind of sad.


&gt; The joke is situationist in spirit because of the uproar it’s causing within a
&gt; community that really should not be so devoted to ownership and ego.

Sure, but I was trying to point out the difference between &quot;situationist spirit&quot; and situationist praxis, or the aesthetics of having one without the other instead of combining them. The situationists held no respect whatsoever for any pretense surrounding literary ownership, they sneered at it constantly, ala: &quot;Furthermore, I do not believe having had great merit here, because there were many of us who were assuring the reproduction and distribution of subversive writings. More generally, the spirit in matters of revolutionary publishing was such that no one took it into their head to quibble about questions of copyright or literary property, under pain of being the general laughingstock or enduring insults.&quot; (http://www.notbored.org/interdiction.html)

It seems more than obvious that something remotely resembling situationist practice (or something contemporary worthy of the relation) would have been on the level of _actual piracy_. Actual poems associated with the actual &quot;known&quot; and established authors who wrote them, circulated en masse through some kind of scandalous means. _Then_ we would have had a real uproar. Right now there is a &#039;mature&#039; and &#039;sophisticated&#039; motley of smug careerist/liberal typecasted outlines, aging publication energies and outmoded complacencies that are &#039;erudite&#039; or at least well read enough to be &quot;in the know&quot; or &quot;with it&quot; concerning the joke, while simultaneously remaining attached enough to literary property to not desire/envision/dream/fancy anything more of an aesthetic supersession in both the humor and provocation departments. Provoking curmudgeon egoist nutjobs whose zombie-forms of literary morality from a bygone era control them is one thing, but a more serious and radical (and even fucking hilarious) provocation of the complacent liberal/bobo/celebrityist crowd would have been more interesting and gutsy in my opinion, more politically up to date even if you care for such contrasts, not to mention capable of producing a far more dazzling and outrageous controversy. Provocation is aesthetically fertile and interesting when it involves challenge and risk in its means of upsetting people, when it goes farther than what is expected of it or than what is harmless and more or less permitted in the historical moment. This anthology was effortless and lazy in that respect, perhaps even &quot;pre-avant&quot; if we want to mock the hilarious &quot;post-avant&quot; marketing jargon in use right now. To be sure, there is no challenge in upsetting the copyright dragons in the moment because a widespread copyright/copyleft programming continues to police almost all expression. This anthology is like saying the Creative Commons is relevant or on par with anything radical or avant-garde in publishing and dissemination right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Margaux, Perhaps “Situationist” is a bit of a stretch, but you give the reception<br />
&gt; too much credit by putting all of the weight on Mathias’ response. Many folks are<br />
&gt; pissed off, arguing over the use of their names, the poems attributed to them, etc.<br />
&gt; Check out the comments on the For Godot blog and on the Harriet blog. It’s ridiculous.<br />
&gt; No one is making money, people looking for poetry aren’t exactly dying to read the<br />
&gt; poems within nor are they being turned off of my work because they don’t like “my”<br />
&gt; poem in the anthology, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re right. My response was a little premature, I just finished reading Ron Silliman&#8217;s ridiculous grumpy old man response. However, to me the event was still not really a provocation. I&#8217;m actually shocked at the amount of crybaby prissy bitterness that such a remarkably TAME act is able to produce, it&#8217;s unbelievable! There really isn&#8217;t anything interesting in the way they constructed the anthology itself, the only merit seems to be in laughing at the uptight responses of those &#8220;included&#8221; in it&#8230; I just assumed up front that the whole event would be more generally recognized as tame, unprovocative, lighthearted as is mirrored in most of the positive and approbative responses. It seems to either piss off an ultra-conservative egoist blowhard element or just be generally approved, but in this sense I think it should be judged insofar as the former is an incredibly easy category to troll, there really isn&#8217;t any sport or sharp experiment or talent in the act, the results are entirely predictable and the provocation thermometer falls flat in this sense. I guess it&#8217;s kind of tragicomic watching idiots throw tantrums over the completely tame inclusion of their names in some meaningless .pdf file on the internet, inexorably hooked into whatever fucked up cathexes are making them defend whatever kind of idealized (profitable) reputation they&#8217;ve staked out for themselves&#8230; but after this it just gets kind of sad.</p>
<p>&gt; The joke is situationist in spirit because of the uproar it’s causing within a<br />
&gt; community that really should not be so devoted to ownership and ego.</p>
<p>Sure, but I was trying to point out the difference between &#8220;situationist spirit&#8221; and situationist praxis, or the aesthetics of having one without the other instead of combining them. The situationists held no respect whatsoever for any pretense surrounding literary ownership, they sneered at it constantly, ala: &#8220;Furthermore, I do not believe having had great merit here, because there were many of us who were assuring the reproduction and distribution of subversive writings. More generally, the spirit in matters of revolutionary publishing was such that no one took it into their head to quibble about questions of copyright or literary property, under pain of being the general laughingstock or enduring insults.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.notbored.org/interdiction.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.notbored.org/interdiction.html</a>)</p>
<p>It seems more than obvious that something remotely resembling situationist practice (or something contemporary worthy of the relation) would have been on the level of _actual piracy_. Actual poems associated with the actual &#8220;known&#8221; and established authors who wrote them, circulated en masse through some kind of scandalous means. _Then_ we would have had a real uproar. Right now there is a &#8216;mature&#8217; and &#8217;sophisticated&#8217; motley of smug careerist/liberal typecasted outlines, aging publication energies and outmoded complacencies that are &#8216;erudite&#8217; or at least well read enough to be &#8220;in the know&#8221; or &#8220;with it&#8221; concerning the joke, while simultaneously remaining attached enough to literary property to not desire/envision/dream/fancy anything more of an aesthetic supersession in both the humor and provocation departments. Provoking curmudgeon egoist nutjobs whose zombie-forms of literary morality from a bygone era control them is one thing, but a more serious and radical (and even fucking hilarious) provocation of the complacent liberal/bobo/celebrityist crowd would have been more interesting and gutsy in my opinion, more politically up to date even if you care for such contrasts, not to mention capable of producing a far more dazzling and outrageous controversy. Provocation is aesthetically fertile and interesting when it involves challenge and risk in its means of upsetting people, when it goes farther than what is expected of it or than what is harmless and more or less permitted in the historical moment. This anthology was effortless and lazy in that respect, perhaps even &#8220;pre-avant&#8221; if we want to mock the hilarious &#8220;post-avant&#8221; marketing jargon in use right now. To be sure, there is no challenge in upsetting the copyright dragons in the moment because a widespread copyright/copyleft programming continues to police almost all expression. This anthology is like saying the Creative Commons is relevant or on par with anything radical or avant-garde in publishing and dissemination right now.</p>
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		<dc:creator>John McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Alias&quot;?
Isn&#039;t that a muslim name?
I have to ask my campaign team. They know everything, even how many mansions I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alias&#8221;?<br />
Isn&#8217;t that a muslim name?<br />
I have to ask my campaign team. They know everything, even how many mansions I have.</p>
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		<title>By: renkat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does bring up a lot of questions regarding &quot;art&quot;, no matter which school one tries to squeeze it into. It also brings up questions of context and publishing. 

I am curious- what would the reaction be had three people using pseudonyms published a hardback book featuring prints of paintings or graphic art attributed randomly to living and dead visual artists? If it were presented in an art gallery, I doubt there would be a problem. The gallery creates context. In a bookstore, though? As a pdf on the net?

If the artists objected would they be accused of being vain or egotistical? Would it wind up being a legal question of free speech? Or would the artists be expected to shut up and quit whining and be grateful to be acknowledged no matter the circumstances? 

If this is a comment on the shallowness of the art world, of the &quot;poetry world&quot; specifically, OR if it is a way to vet the philosophically/educationally challenged, the &quot;poets&quot; included here are *damned if they do damned if they don&#039;t*. (Ego or ignorance? An admission that &quot;it (being poetry and authorship) really doesn&#039;t matter&quot;? Pick your response.) If there is a connection to Godot, this is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does bring up a lot of questions regarding &#8220;art&#8221;, no matter which school one tries to squeeze it into. It also brings up questions of context and publishing. </p>
<p>I am curious- what would the reaction be had three people using pseudonyms published a hardback book featuring prints of paintings or graphic art attributed randomly to living and dead visual artists? If it were presented in an art gallery, I doubt there would be a problem. The gallery creates context. In a bookstore, though? As a pdf on the net?</p>
<p>If the artists objected would they be accused of being vain or egotistical? Would it wind up being a legal question of free speech? Or would the artists be expected to shut up and quit whining and be grateful to be acknowledged no matter the circumstances? </p>
<p>If this is a comment on the shallowness of the art world, of the &#8220;poetry world&#8221; specifically, OR if it is a way to vet the philosophically/educationally challenged, the &#8220;poets&#8221; included here are *damned if they do damned if they don&#8217;t*. (Ego or ignorance? An admission that &#8220;it (being poetry and authorship) really doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221;? Pick your response.) If there is a connection to Godot, this is it.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russians seem to carry themselves with a strange sort of self-assured resignation. They are rarely relaxed in their stances; soldiers and armored vehicles pulled back from positions deep on the Russian team with her play in the Russian league. She is no traitor. I&#039;m on the highway, about halfway between the Georgian capital, that no longer able to conduct a cold wqar againsdt America, but they do like to play spoilers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russians seem to carry themselves with a strange sort of self-assured resignation. They are rarely relaxed in their stances; soldiers and armored vehicles pulled back from positions deep on the Russian team with her play in the Russian league. She is no traitor. I&#8217;m on the highway, about halfway between the Georgian capital, that no longer able to conduct a cold wqar againsdt America, but they do like to play spoilers.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just happy to be included in the roll call. I wonder if Hakim Bey would consider this an act of poetic terrorism...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just happy to be included in the roll call. I wonder if Hakim Bey would consider this an act of poetic terrorism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joannie</title>
		<link>http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Joannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. Three thousand poets plus and I still can&#039;t even get a nonsubmission (unsubmission?) in. Still waiting...</description>
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		<title>By: Ricky Garni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Garni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I feel a bit insulted by my exclusion in the very first issue of FOR GODOT. Frankly, I think that my submission was equal – and in many cases – superior to many of the authors that the editors selected for their maiden voyage. Granted, I would be humbled to be in the same pages as Artaud, Reverdy and Tristan Tsara – and I feel, quite honestly, that while my work doesn&#039;t approach their level of greatness, it is at least as good as 1000 to 2000 of the others work included therein. 

Color me disappointed. And a little sad. 

Ricky Garni

PS If in fact I was included in this issue, please ignore the preceding comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I feel a bit insulted by my exclusion in the very first issue of FOR GODOT. Frankly, I think that my submission was equal – and in many cases – superior to many of the authors that the editors selected for their maiden voyage. Granted, I would be humbled to be in the same pages as Artaud, Reverdy and Tristan Tsara – and I feel, quite honestly, that while my work doesn&#8217;t approach their level of greatness, it is at least as good as 1000 to 2000 of the others work included therein. </p>
<p>Color me disappointed. And a little sad. </p>
<p>Ricky Garni</p>
<p>PS If in fact I was included in this issue, please ignore the preceding comments.</p>
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		<title>By: amyking</title>
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		<dc:creator>amyking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will people be moved away from the complacent world of &quot;I just wanna be a published famous poet&quot; that so often rules in Poetry World? This mentality is the best absorption the capitalist machinery can do with poets and their &quot;products.&quot;  I doubt this &quot;anthology&quot; will break this cycle and stop poets from thinking in those terms, but at least it&#039;s challenging the &quot;my poetry should be published, make me book sale profits, &amp; get me reading gigs&quot; mentality, computer-generated or not.  It has at least spotlighted this mentality through it&#039;s challenge to ownership &amp; mis-attribution, so again I say, Kudos!

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will people be moved away from the complacent world of &#8220;I just wanna be a published famous poet&#8221; that so often rules in Poetry World? This mentality is the best absorption the capitalist machinery can do with poets and their &#8220;products.&#8221;  I doubt this &#8220;anthology&#8221; will break this cycle and stop poets from thinking in those terms, but at least it&#8217;s challenging the &#8220;my poetry should be published, make me book sale profits, &amp; get me reading gigs&#8221; mentality, computer-generated or not.  It has at least spotlighted this mentality through it&#8217;s challenge to ownership &amp; mis-attribution, so again I say, Kudos!</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: amyking</title>
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		<dc:creator>amyking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Margaux,  Perhaps &quot;Situationist&quot; is a bit of a stretch, but you give the reception too much credit by putting all of the weight on Mathias&#039; response.  Many folks are pissed off, arguing over the use of their names, the poems attributed to them, etc.  Check out the comments on the For Godot blog and on the Harriet blog.  It&#039;s ridiculous.  No one is making money, people looking for poetry aren&#039;t exactly dying to read the poems within nor are they being turned off of my work because they don&#039;t like &quot;my&quot; poem in the anthology, etc.  The joke is situationist in spirit because of the uproar it&#039;s causing within a community that really should not be so devoted to ownership and ego.  And you&#039;ll note, I wasn&#039;t exacting a science when I dubbed it situationist; that was one label among several that I loosely noted in parenthesis, rather than proclaiming these guys the next Situationists.  Let&#039;s be less stringent and police less, I think the thrust of the joke might say, among other bubbles of infectious laughter.  

As I wrote on a listserv:

For what&#039;s it worth, kudos to these three young guys.  I imagine they&#039;re students, twiddling their thumbs, trying to imagine how to stir up the poetry world, steeped in some sort of theory (situationist? dada-ist? surrealism?  etc), facing the menacing world of &quot;getting published&quot; and making something of themselves as poets, ahem.  They&#039;ve decided to take on the death of the lyrical I, the death of the author, the death of paper, the celebration of the internet sea, etc.  They&#039;ve done something, though just what isn&#039;t clear, but yes, kudos to their efforts to make a mess of the pool of internet muck -- it may be only a
ripple in the end, but maybe some of the worthwhile work and sites and ideas will get a chance to rise (not necessarily from the anthology) after their pebble has sunk to disappearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaux,  Perhaps &#8220;Situationist&#8221; is a bit of a stretch, but you give the reception too much credit by putting all of the weight on Mathias&#8217; response.  Many folks are pissed off, arguing over the use of their names, the poems attributed to them, etc.  Check out the comments on the For Godot blog and on the Harriet blog.  It&#8217;s ridiculous.  No one is making money, people looking for poetry aren&#8217;t exactly dying to read the poems within nor are they being turned off of my work because they don&#8217;t like &#8220;my&#8221; poem in the anthology, etc.  The joke is situationist in spirit because of the uproar it&#8217;s causing within a community that really should not be so devoted to ownership and ego.  And you&#8217;ll note, I wasn&#8217;t exacting a science when I dubbed it situationist; that was one label among several that I loosely noted in parenthesis, rather than proclaiming these guys the next Situationists.  Let&#8217;s be less stringent and police less, I think the thrust of the joke might say, among other bubbles of infectious laughter.  </p>
<p>As I wrote on a listserv:</p>
<p>For what&#8217;s it worth, kudos to these three young guys.  I imagine they&#8217;re students, twiddling their thumbs, trying to imagine how to stir up the poetry world, steeped in some sort of theory (situationist? dada-ist? surrealism?  etc), facing the menacing world of &#8220;getting published&#8221; and making something of themselves as poets, ahem.  They&#8217;ve decided to take on the death of the lyrical I, the death of the author, the death of paper, the celebration of the internet sea, etc.  They&#8217;ve done something, though just what isn&#8217;t clear, but yes, kudos to their efforts to make a mess of the pool of internet muck &#8212; it may be only a<br />
ripple in the end, but maybe some of the worthwhile work and sites and ideas will get a chance to rise (not necessarily from the anthology) after their pebble has sunk to disappearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go with Ana&#039;s theory on the
computer-generation.  3,800 pages,
after all.  Here&#039;s a fun concept:
try to back-figure what (if any)
correlation it has with your
stuff.  Maybe skimmed title keywords
plus garble....
Amazing how .pdf packs that stuff in.
Must be a looong wait to open it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go with Ana&#8217;s theory on the<br />
computer-generation.  3,800 pages,<br />
after all.  Here&#8217;s a fun concept:<br />
try to back-figure what (if any)<br />
correlation it has with your<br />
stuff.  Maybe skimmed title keywords<br />
plus garble&#8230;.<br />
Amazing how .pdf packs that stuff in.<br />
Must be a looong wait to open it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or are they simply looking to get 
some major portion of that list to
hit that?  Jiujitsu marketing..
Several editors have told me
only jl. authors buy paper, all
others get the free pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or are they simply looking to get<br />
some major portion of that list to<br />
hit that?  Jiujitsu marketing..<br />
Several editors have told me<br />
only jl. authors buy paper, all<br />
others get the free pdf.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaux Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if I were to compress my exegesis into soundbite, I would say that in this work, what is meant to take a jab at signatures and identity is immediately reversed and transformed into canonization, i.e. the grand and reverent worship of signatures, another reason to honor them in the great halls and publication/award ceremonies. To speak in situationist lingo, this is called [i]recuperation[/i].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if I were to compress my exegesis into soundbite, I would say that in this work, what is meant to take a jab at signatures and identity is immediately reversed and transformed into canonization, i.e. the grand and reverent worship of signatures, another reason to honor them in the great halls and publication/award ceremonies. To speak in situationist lingo, this is called [i]recuperation[/i].</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that is the romantic wish, as I&#039;ve noted.  None of it&#039;s real and is likely computer-generated.  And yet, for being so unreal, lots of attention and talk over and looking over the thing.  Huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that is the romantic wish, as I&#8217;ve noted.  None of it&#8217;s real and is likely computer-generated.  And yet, for being so unreal, lots of attention and talk over and looking over the thing.  Huh.</p>
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